he stays behind to talk to \
you, there’s suddenly a lot of pressure on. He should always
leave with his friends. He can simply say he doesn’t want to ditch th\
em, then ask if he can call me. He comes off like a good pal
and not just someone on the make.
—Diana, 24, New York City”
Whenever possible though, aim for the *close, the #close will follow nat\
urally plus it'll have much more meaning for the both of
you:)
The *close
If you can read body-language fairly well, you'll know when the girl is \
receptive or ready or even waiting for a kiss close:) She'll
let you touch her without resistance, touches you in return, wets her li\
ps slightly and/or looks at your lips, especially when you are
aobut to depart (be observat though, they're doing it subconsciously an\
d generally don't want to let you in on their already aroused
little fantasies about you:).
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But there are a number of situations, where things are not that clear, y\
ou're not sure if she is in the mood or things have not been
too going well etc. The dumbest thing to do here is to leave without act\
ually finding out ("Ok, bye now, was nice meeting you"),
this applies even if you did the #close ("Ok, well, I'll call you…" \
etc). Of course, you have to pick your situations - for example
you can't start asking for a *close in front of her friends or relatives\
(she might even be dying to kiss you, but she just can't do it in
front of others - that's why extracting her / separating her from the ot\
hers is so important) - but you should always aim for the
*close nevertheless.
Don't use a "Can I kiss you?" line - its indicative of your supplicating\
tendencies and puts her too much on a pedestal from which
its easy for her to reject you. Instead, use the Mystery-style "Would yo\
u like to kiss me:)?" and go for the kiss if the response is
anything but a blatant "NO!". Don't expect a "yes", you'll hardly ever g\
et it (but if you did, you can fairly safely assume the same
answer to a "would you like to make love to me?":). But the lack of an \
outright refusal ("I don't know…") usually means that she
really would like to kiss you, but she's just processing the situation a\
s kissing has both social and personal implications and she's
not quite ready or its not a comfortable place for her to do it etc, but\
never mind all that, say "Let's find out" and go for the kiss -
she'll enjoy it:) If the reply however is a "NO!", then do a Mystery-st\
yle followup: "Gee, you sure wrecked a moment, I bet your
previous BFs must have really hated that about you..." Its a good neg to\
make her re-evaluate her position and usually you will be
able to proceed with her the next time you try (note the importance of \
persistence here!:).
Update. Veroxii, ASF: "After doing some fluff-talk with a girl and getting som\
e rapport and light kino going, I ask her if she likes
local or foreign guys better, because I prefer foreign girls over local \
girls (which is a lie!:). Then after her "But why?" I tell her it's
because local girls don't know how to kiss properly. I think you guys ca\
n see where I'm going with this... After a little bit of an
argument (because they actually do kiss quite well), I just grab her a\
nd say "so let's find out!" and give her the full tongue action.
Sidenote: you need to have at least some kino going before this, or she \
might freak out."
Update. SirMoby, ASF: "I always ask the HBs "Do you like ice cream?" Of course\
they say "Yes" and ask "Why do you ask?" I
explain that women that don't like ice cream probably kiss with their mo\
uth closed and that the women of [insert the homeland of
the HB here] seem to have no passion. They immediately come back about h\
ow passionate they are. I usually get an open mouth
kiss in a few minutes and they also start telling me about their passion\
s.
See also:
Proceeding instead of closing
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Estonian translations
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You're probably wondering, what the heck is an Estonian translation:) W\
ell, I've just translated a few patterning dialogues into
Estonian, my native language, so that they'd be a little more useful for\
me (no use talking in English to an Estonian girl is there?:).
If however you're a fellow Estonian as
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