Notes and Queries, Number 36, July 6, 1850 | Page 8

he was on the point of retiring into France,
and dated Pondesfred, January 26, 1646, is printed in Mr. Eliot
Warburton's _Memoirs of Prince Rupert_, iii. 215.
Mr. Warburton, by the way, clearly confounds the father with the son
when he speaks of the Earl of Norwich's trial and reprieve (iii. 408.).
Three letters printed in Mr. W.'s second volume (pp. 172. 181, 182.),
and signed "Goring", are probably letters of the father's, but given by
Mr. Warburton to the son.
I perceive also that Mr. Bell, the editor of the lately published _Fairfax
Correspondence_, has not avoided confusion between the father and
son. In the first volume of the correspondence relating to the civil war
(p. 281.), the editor says, under date January, 1646,--
"Lord Hopton in the meanwhile has been appointed to the command in
Cornwall, superseding Goring. Also has been sent off on several
negociations to France."

Goring went off to France on his own account; his father was at that
time Charles I.'s ambassador at the court of France.
I should like to know the year in which a letter of Goring the son's,
printed by Mr. Bell in vol. i. p. 23., was written, if it can be ascertained.
As printed, it is dated "Berwick, June 22." Is Berwick right? Is there a
bath there? The letter is addressed to Sir Constantine Huygens, and in it
is this passage--
"I have now my lameness so much renewed that I cannot come to clear
myself; as soon as the bath has restored me to my strength, I shall
employ it in his Highness's service, if he please to let me return into the
same place of his favour that I thought myself happy in before."
I should expect that this letter was written from France after Goring's
abrupt retreat into that country. It is stated that the letter comes from
Mr. Bentley's collection.
The Earl of Norwich was in Flanders in November 1569, and
accompanied the Dukes of York and Gloucester from Brussels to Breda.
(Carte's _Letters_, ii. 282.)
CH.
If the following account of the Goring family given by Banks
(_Dormant and Extinct Peerage_, vol. iii. p. 575.) is correct, it will
appear that the father and both his sons were styled at different times.
"Lord Goring," and that they may very easily be distinguished.
"George Goring, of Hurstpierpont, Sussex, the son of George Goring,
and Anne his wife, sister to Edward Lord Denny, afterwards Earl of
Norwich, was created Baron Goring in the fourth of Charles I., and in
the xx'th of the same reign advanced to the earldom of Norwich, which
had become extinct by the death of his maternal uncle above-mentioned,
S.P.M.
"He betrayed Portsmouth, of which he was governor, to the king, and
rendered him many other signal services. He married Mary, one of the

daughters of Edward Nevill, vi'th Baron of Abergavenny, and had issue
four daughters, and two sons, the eldest of whom, George, was an
eminent commander for Charles I., and best _known as 'General
Goring_,' and who, after the loss of the crown to his royal master,
retired to the Continent, and served with credit as lieutenant-general to
the King of Spain. He married Lettice, daughter of Richard Earl of
Cork, and died abroad, S.P., in _the lifetime of his father_, who
survived till 1662, and was succeeded by _his only remaining son_,
Charles Lord Goring, and second Earl of Norwich, with whom, as he
left no issue by his wife, daughter of ---- Leman, and widow of Sir
Richard Beker, all his honours became extinct in 1672. He was
unquestionably the Lord Goring noticed by Pepys as returning to
England in 1660, and not the old peer his father, who, if described by
any title, would have been styled 'Earl of Norwich.'"
BRAYBROOKE.
July 1, 1850.
[Footnote 2: Let me also correct a misprint. Banks, the author of the
_Dormant and Extinct Perrage_, is misprinted Burke.]
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QUERIES
JAMES CARKASSE'S LUCIDA INTERVALLA, AN
ILLUSTRATION OF PEPYS' DIARY.
I met lately with a quarto volume of poems printed at London in 1679,
entitled:
"Lucida Intevalla containing divers miscellaneous Poems written at
Finsbury and Bethlem, by the Doctor's Patient Extraordinary."
On the title-page was written in an old hand the native of the "patient
extraordinary" and author _James Carkasse_, and that of the "doctor"
Thomas Allen. A little reading convinced me that the writer was a very

fit subject for a lunatic asylum; but at page 5, I met with an allusion to
the celebrated Mr. Pepys, which I will beg to quote:--
"Get thee behind me then, dumb devil, begone, The Lord hath
eppthatha said to my tongue, Him I must praise who open'd hath my
lips, Sent me from Navy, to the Ark, by Pepys;