Notes and Queries, Number 35, June 29, 1850

and Queries, Number 35, June 29,
1850, by Various

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Title: Notes and Queries, Number 35, June 29, 1850 A Medium of
Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries,
Genealogists, etc
Author: Various
Editor: George Bell
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NOTES AND QUERIES:
A MEDIUM OF INTER-COMMUNICATION FOR LITERARY MEN,
ARTISTS, ANTIQUARIES, GENEALOGISTS, ETC.
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"When found, make a note of."--CAPTAIN CUTTLE.
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No. 35.] SATURDAY, JUNE 29. 1850. [Price, with index to Vol. I., 9d.
Stamped Edition 11d.
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CONTENTS.
NOTES:-- Page George Goring, Earl of Norwich, and his Son George,
Lord Goring 65 MSS. of Bishop Ridley 66 Lines written during the
Arctic Expedition 67 Folk Lore:--Legend of Sir Richard Baker,
surnamed Bloody Baker--Cures for Warts--Charm for Cure of King's
Evil--Fig-Sunday 67 Note on a Passage in Hudibras 68 Coffee, Black
Broth 69
QUERIES:-- Queries concerning Old MSS., by E. F. Rimbault 70
Minor Queries:--Chantrey's Sleeping Children in Lichfield
Cathedral--Viscount Dundee's Ring--Kilkenny Cats--Robert de
Welle--Lady Slingsby--God save the Queen--Meaning of
"Steyne"--Origin of "Adur"--Colonel Lilburn--French Verses--Our
World--Porson's Imposition--Alice Rolle--The Meaning of "Race" in
Ship-building--The Battle of Death--Execution of Charles
I.--Morganitic Marriage-- Lord Bacon's Palace and Gardens--"Dies Iræ,
Dies Illa"--Aubrey Family--Ogden Family 70

REPLIES:-- Sir George Buc, by E. F. Rimbault and Cecil Monro 73 "A
frog he would a-wooing go" 74 Replies to Minor Queries;--Carucate of
Land-- Golden Frog and Sir John Poley--The Poley Frog--
Bands--Bishops and their Precedence--"Imprest" and
"Debenture"--Charade--"Laus tua, non tua Fraus"--Dutch
Language--"Construe" and "translate"-- Dutton Family--Mother of
Thomas à Becket-- Medal of Stukeley--Dulcarnon--Practice of
Scalping-- Derivation of Penny 75
MISCELLANIES:-- "By Hook or by Crook"--Burning dead Bodies--
Etymology of "Barbarian"--Royal and distinguished Disinterments 78
MISCELLANEOUS:-- Notes on Books, Sales, Catalogues, Sales, &c.
79 Books and Odd Volumes Wanted 79 Notices to Correspondents 79
Advertisements 79
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Notes.
GEORGE GORING, EARL OF NORWICH, AND HIS SON
GEORGE, LORD GORING.
G.'s inquiry (Vol. i., p. 22.) about the two Gorings of the Civil War--a
period of our history in which I am much interested--has led me to look
into some of the sources of original information for that time, in the
hope that I might be enabled to answer his Queries. I regret I cannot yet
answer his precise questions, when Lord Goring the son was married,
and when and where he died? but I think the following references to
notices of the father and the son will be acceptable to him; and I
venture to think that the working out in this way of neglected
biographies, is one of the many uses to which your excellent periodical
may be applied.
Confusion has undoubtedly been made between the father and son by
careless compilers. But whoever carefully reads the passages of
contemporary writers relating to the two Gorings, and keeps in mind
that the title of Earl of Norwich, given by Charles I. in November, 1644,

to the father, was not recognised by the parliamentary party, will have
no difficulty in distinguishing between the two. Thus it will be seen in
two of the passages which I subjoin from Carte's Letters, that in 1649 a
parliamentarian calls the father Lord Goring, and Sir Edward Nicholas
calls him Earl of Norwich.
Burke, in his Dormant and Extinct Peerages, vol. iii., makes the
mistake of giving to the father the son's proceedings at Portsmouth at
the beginning of the Civil War.
Lord Goring the son, then Colonel Goring, commanding a regiment in
the Low Countries, was, at the siege of Breda, September, 1637,
severely wounded in the leg, and had a narrow escape of losing it. Sir
William Boswell, the English ambassador at the Hague, writes to
Bramhall, then Bishop of Derry, and afterwards Archbishop of
Armagh:--
"Colonel Goring having the guard of the English in the approaches, was
shot so dangerously cross the shin of his leg, a little above his ankle, as
the chirurgion at first resolved to cut off his leg to save his life; but
upon second thoughts, and some opposition by one of them against four,
they forebare; and now, thanks be to God, he is gotten out of danger of
losing